In this conversation, Emily sits down with Jenny Odell — artist and author of "Saving Time" and "How to Do Nothing" — to explore the importance of reclaiming our attention and time in a digital age. We explore how "learning" is becoming a lost art (and what to do about that), experience and the role of technology in shaping our lives. From years of observation, research and her own study, Jenny brings a world-changing perspective to how we find our freedom from the forces that pull to commodify and measure every minute and relationship in our lives. In this episode, we discuss: * The moment at summer camp that shaped how Jenny thinks about learning, presence, and attention * How we can retain human agency in a world constantly fighting for our attention * The historical roots of "productivity culture" and how it lives on today * The role of language in shaping our relationship to time * What the "attention economy" is and the impact it is having * Why people sitting in a circle might be "the highest form of human existence" * The nuance beneath the statement "the internet is bad" * Why repair cafes, cooperatives, and habitat restoration projects point toward the world we're trying to build inside the one we're currently in
In this conversation, Emily sits down with Jenny Odell — artist and author of "Saving Time" and "How to Do Nothing" — to explore the importance of reclaiming our attention and time in a digital age. We explore how "learning" is becoming a lost art (and what to do about that),
experience and the role of technology in shaping our lives. From years of observation, research and her own study, Jenny brings a world-changing perspective to how we find our freedom from the forces that pull to commodify and measure every minute and relationship in our lives.
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